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from aliens to ghosts

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demons to angels

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and from shadow people to the outrange

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welcome welcome everybody to my awesome

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friday evening if you're listening to me

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heidi hollis the outlander so welcome to

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know what the show's about

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this show is about bringing outlandish

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from aliens angels ghost demons

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the outlandish i always say if it's

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weird we're here and now you are too so

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you are among friends if you do not know

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who i am

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when it comes to the outlandish

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personally i'm someone who has been

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there seeing that experienced it freaked

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out found some answers wrote about it

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got over it and now i'm hoping to help

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ours that we love

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so um i am going to once again forego

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my outlandish corner where i answer your

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regards to anything and everything

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out of the ordinary um that is so much

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fun and let me tell you the emails are

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and uh yeah so we're gonna keep this

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party going and i'm gonna introduce my

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fantastic guest that i don't know why i

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don't know why but he feels kind of like

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i just love this guy so anyways i am

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going to get to introducing this fellow

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joshua p warren who is an investigator

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who pioneers the amazing relationship

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mind energy matter and strange phenomena

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he owns the asheville mystery museum and

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laboratory in north carolina and the

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bermuda triangle research base in puerto

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i love it over there the author of over

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20 best-selling books including use the

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force a jedi's guide to the law of

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attraction and the wishing machine

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workbook

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has appeared on tons of tv shows if you

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that one was one of my favorites um he

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travels the world investigating

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mysterious phenomena

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and he's made the cover of science

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journal in 2004 for lab experiments

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regarding energy fields in nature

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the creator of the wildly popular

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wishing machine project that's very cool

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he's helped thousands of people around

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the globe change their lives in profound

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ways manifesting extremely good fortune

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if you want to see some pretty darn cool

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photos and videos please go to

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joshuapwarren.com

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everybody please give a round of

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applause to my friend and yours joshua p

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oh they're going crazy josh how the heck

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are you

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i am doing great so nice to be with you

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heidi i've missed you so much and uh

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first off congratulations on the roaring

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success of this program i love it and so

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many people love it around the world so

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it's just always a pleasure to be with

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you it's been wild i mean the show has

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just grown and grown and i just have a

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good old time i'm just sitting here

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drinking some coffee eating some popcorn

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sometimes i mean i don't know

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but my goodness you've been awfully busy

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yourself my goodness i mean i don't know

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how many things you've got your hands in

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i don't know how you do it

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let's just launch off

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what on earth is is the new thing for

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you as of late

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well um obviously i've been doing a lot

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of traveling um since we last talked

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i think four different television series

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uh two of which will be airing later

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um been doing a lot of research here in

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the bermuda triangle i even created a

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an online paranormal investigator

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certification course which uh just

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debuted in february and uh fortunately

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everybody has loved that i mean i've

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gotten students now around the world so

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that's available but the big thing right

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which really has taken me about four

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years worth of work to accumulate

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because when i first started coming down

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here to the bermuda triangle in puerto

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rico about 11 years ago i realized that

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there was a lot of ufo and s o activity

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that was not necessarily making it back

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into the media in the u.s mainland and

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so little by little i started putting

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some of these uh phenomena together uh

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getting great video footage that people

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have never seen probably and and some

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really good pictures that have never

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and i assembled it all into this uh new

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it's called o ufos a new discovery and

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oh boy there's a lot to talk about with

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that one and i know you've watched it so

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uh would you like to give your

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impression of what what what's going on

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yeah you know that is that is pretty

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darn cool i i kind of like your um

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your angle and like you know is this

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something that has been around all the

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time but our naked eyes just not able to

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follow it essentially what you what you

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show and and what seems to be described

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as a three to five foot

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that's zippity-doo dying around puerto

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rico in and out of the water that has

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some strange appendages that may or may

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not be attached

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i i mean it's it's pretty it's pretty

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i don't know do they come across as like

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drone like to you or

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well you know in the beginning i was

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really scratching my head over these

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because you know for those who haven't

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watched the video yet and there's an

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easy link to it at joshuapwarren.com if

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you just go there and click that you'll

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find the the video and other information

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i start the video off

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by showing

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some footage shot by an actual homeland

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security thermal imaging camera

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at the nearby aguadilla airport and for

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people who

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may know a bit about puerto rico

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uh if you look at the palm of your hand

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that's sort of the shape of puerto rico

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and in the upper northwestern corner you

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have this town called aguadilla

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uh at about 9 20 p.m

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exactly uh it starts with an a

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but one of those months

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the camera at the airport caught this

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object that looks

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roughly

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saucer-shaped uh but it also is kind of

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irregular and almost has a

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shape-shifting appearance it's zipping

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around the airport at up to 120 miles

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per hour they immediately grounded all

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the flights and the most spectacular

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thing is that as you watch this thing

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flying around without wings or rotors or

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any obvious propulsion suddenly you see

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it dip seamlessly into the atlantic

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ocean where it continues to zip at 95

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miles per hour under the surface of the

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water as the camera continues tracking

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it and then eventually it emerges from

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the water but now

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it is joined by a second object those

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two objects fly around and then they

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finally dip into the ocean one final

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time and they never re-emerge

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now this footage was examined and

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authenticated and

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really just broken down in great detail

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by a group of mainstream scientists in

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this thorough

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162-page report which is absolutely

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fascinating

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and you know heidi when i went to the

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site

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where those two ufos dipped into the

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water and i was standing there on the

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beach because

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i had to go down a little kind of rugged

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pathway down to this spot and here i

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came out of this beautiful beach there's

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hardly anybody around big rocky craggy

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cliffs with waves crashing on them and

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i'm standing there envisioning what it

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would have been like to stand there that

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night and watch these objects flying

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around and then disappear into the water

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it occurred to me that if

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suddenly all that water were gone

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it would look sort of like that i was

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standing there

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almost on the edge of the grand canyon

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because there's a huge trench that drops

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off there except the grand canyon is

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only 6000 feet deep and this trench is

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almost 30 000 feet deep

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it's so deep you could almost fit all of

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mount everest down in it just a little

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tip would be sticking up it's the

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deepest point in the atlantic ocean it's

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the second deepest point in the world

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and so i'm imagining that there is

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something going on uh down in this

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trench and uh that is some hardcore rock

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solid footage right there and so i

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opened the video with that but as it

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goes on then i started realizing okay

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there are other things happening here on

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the island that connected this where

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people are having these sort of

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interactions with whatever these these

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things are

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and uh and i don't know if we're talking

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about a ship with a little man inside of

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the steering wheel i i tend to think

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that maybe these things are actually

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some type of advanced biological form

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hmm yeah that

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i it makes

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makes more sense i mean these are little

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unless we're talking about itty-bitty

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little aliens who are way to say that

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they're not itty-bitty

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well they certainly could be uh and

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that's one of the things these

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scientists they they believed that that

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object was three to five feet in

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diameter but in these subsequent

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investigations where i was able to get

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in all kinds of other data from from

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other people about their experiences

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what we found is that

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these particular ufos they they don't

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look nicely structured like the typical

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flying saucers so to speak that we

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classically talk about in ufology and

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one thing that surprised me was that i

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met a man who you can see in the video

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his name is daniel velez and um he is a

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direct descendant of the taino indians

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and those were the the the natives that

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were here on the island when columbus

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came here in 1493

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and he said that there's always been a

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tradition among his people of being able

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to go out and meditate in a certain way

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and make these things appear

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and so uh

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for one thing not only were we able to

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go out and follow his instructions to a

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certain extent and do various

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experiments to get these things to

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appear on command

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but furthermore

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it occurred to me that the taino indians

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they had these little objects that they

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called sameez

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and they were little idols that look a

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lot like a little stone hershey kiss

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yeah with a face on it

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and uh these were considered lesser gods

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that lived high up in the sky than the

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mountains and and so it could be that

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there has been an awareness of those

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things here in puerto rico going back

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hundreds if not thousands of years among

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the the the tribes but then i end the

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video by showing a very similar

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phenomenon that's been captured and made

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the mainstream news in denver colorado

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so we're not talking about something

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that's strictly limited to the bermuda

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triangle but something that occurs at

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various hot spots around the world and

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it makes you wonder heidi if some of

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these things are possibly zipping around

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us all the time but some of them are

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moving so quickly that we don't

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necessarily get a good look at them

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because who is pointing a camera up in

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the in the air and letting it run all

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day and then playing it back in slow

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motion to see what's flying around not

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many people are doing that very true it

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kind of

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reminds me of the phenomena of rods you

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know it's like one of those things that

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you're like whoa what was that you know

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it you just so happen

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to spot something odd and you rewind and

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you pause and yeah wow that's it's it's

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kind of kind of remarkable i

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i i can't help but to

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uh

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i don't know

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it's i wonder how much more widespread

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this really is that people just like say

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haven't come across what it is that

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you've discovered and put up online and

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you know make you know connecting the

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dots i i wonder i wonder how uh

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you could gather up more reports you

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know it's like just to see what people

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are seeing out there you know and just

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bring them all in

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yeah i think for you know for one thing

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showing folks this this footage

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and talking about the concept that many

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of these might be traveling around

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frequently but going too fast will

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inspire researchers to go out and do

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exactly what i just suggested

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and

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what we really need is to get some of

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these super high speed cameras and to

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put them in the sky at some of these hot

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spots and then analyze in detail what

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what we see flying around here and you

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know i i started calling these

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oufos

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which means organic ufos

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and i'm not the first person to mention

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the possibility that some of these

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things flying around might be organic

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but i also want to point out that when i

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say organic i'm not really talking about

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what a lot of people might automatically

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presume i mean because we're very

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egocentric so we think of organic as

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resembling something nice and soft and

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fleshy like a human but if you take a

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human and you you grind that person up

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and look under a microscope you find

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uh and it's sure you've done this

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haven't we all i mean it's just a little

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bit here and there

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you have iron copper

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zinc sulfur magnesium you have all these

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things

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that we usually associate with something

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that's inorganic and so uh and then when

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it comes to you know look how weird life

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is you have something as different uh

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from us as a tree uh you have insects

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you have like i thought you're gonna say

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like a trump i'm sorry keep going

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you've got uh i don't know what what

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life form category we're talking about

435
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um we have you know all kinds of

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different um you know things that don't

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necessarily resemble humans but they

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still are considered living and

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conscious and so therefore these might

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kind of blur the lines a little bit

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and that they don't they don't fall into

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what we think of as being like you know

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a dog or a cat or whatever but they they

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still might themselves be uh conscious

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living things and uh therefore they're

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sensitive to some degree to to our

447
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consciousness and our wishes and so

448
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that's the cool thing about this if if

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what i'm seeing here is a prominent

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enough trend well then that's that means

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that you don't just have to go out there

452
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and set up a camera a certain way and

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just sit back with your fingers crossed

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there are actually some techniques you

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might be able to use in order to put out

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a request to get these things to appear

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just like we did and you can see our

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evidence there on camera

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wow you know i i swear i had three

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separate incidences where

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i was able to call a ufo and it showed

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up i

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i didn't try anything special i didn't

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know it would work each time

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but it was just one of those things like

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you know let's pay attention to our

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environment uh you know on the last

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occasion and i was like lo and behold

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what there goes one oh my goodness and

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rather massive and and and just just

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mind-blowing um but you know i i have

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this and this is something that's often

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been described by others too it's like

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you know they saw ufo and they wanted to

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see the other side and they were

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thinking gee i wish it would turn left

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and it turns left as it was paying

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attention you know

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you hear these things all the time so

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there is some psychic connection between

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these crafts and our wishes i i just

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wonder

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you know what is the button that we push

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that's just right

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it's getting their attention it's like

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how'd that work you know can i do this

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all the time you know once it works

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don't didn't you feel like that like wow

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i mean every time i come out here and

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this happens i mean

491
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what how consistent has it been for

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yourself

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well for me it hasn't been as consistent

494
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as it has for people who are doing this

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really just more for for pleasure

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because you know what i found is that

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when i go out to do this

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i'm i'm a little too serious about it

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you know because i've gotten all my

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cameras and tripods and meters and i'm

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all like you know i'm set up to do

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business here and and most of people who

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go out and really have

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luck with this they they just go out

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they'll take a cell phone

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and they'll just

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start recording video

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they'll hold it out in front of them

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close their eyes

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take a few deep breaths

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put out a mental invitation and just

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kind of scan the horizon from right to

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left

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and the thing is when you play this back

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um it's very very easy especially you

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know for for those who don't know about

517
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my history i've been analyzing uh images

518
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related to supposed paranormal phenomena

519
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for at least 25 years it's easy to tell

520
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if you're looking at a bird or an insect

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or some of these you know airborne

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particles it's quite easy to rule those

523
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things out

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when you see this stuff

525
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uh it is it's outstanding i mean it's

526
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not like any of those things

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and uh that's like you know you

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mentioned rods for example i mean even

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when the whole rod thing was was picking

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up traction immediately i would look at

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that and say to me this looks exactly

532
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like the wing beats of an insect

533
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and at that time especially the digital

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technology that we were using had a

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certain type of interlace

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and also you know your shutter speed

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makes an impact on that but what you end

538
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:05,760
up with is you know if you have what

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amounts to

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uh kind of a motion blur from an insect

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or a moth or a butterfly it creates that

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rod shape and that's what the vast

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majority of so-called rods were

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and as camera technology got better

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people realized that

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especially when they started catching

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them in nets and they were actually

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moths

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but you know aside from that and these

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are something that are are very

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different um and

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it makes you wonder

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um if these are

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able to transition

555
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so easily in and out of the water

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because they are kind of shape-shifting

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and they're able to literally

558
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:49,440
um

559
00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:52,559
alter their shape on a molecular level

560
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:55,039
right as they're bridging that gap from

561
00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:57,120
one medium to the other

562
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:00,640
or if these things might be sort of only

563
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:04,080
partially in this dimension so to speak

564
00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:07,679
and therefore they're not interacting as

565
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:11,679
fully as say a normal airplane would if

566
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,240
it were traveling 120 miles per hour and

567
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:16,320
hit the water uh you know there would be

568
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:18,080
a big splash so there are all these

569
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:19,919
questions that come up and i'm not

570
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:21,520
saying that i think that these are

571
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,440
definitely organic

572
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,520
but i think that is a something we

573
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,840
should definitely look at and discuss

574
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:30,000
and take into consideration yeah you

575
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,520
know what i tell my friends when they

576
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,440
want to go out someplace to see a ufo

577
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:35,360
i'm like well we do need a sacrifice so

578
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,470
but you know with uh

579
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:42,000
when you're when you're describing these

580
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,640
things as potentially being organic i

581
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:46,720
mean when you see the video

582
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,360
it looks like you know it it's kind of

583
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,720
splashing around in the water having a

584
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:52,320
little fun and then it's like asked for

585
00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:54,240
a friend to come join them and you know

586
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:55,919
pops out and there's two of them and

587
00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:56,960
it's like

588
00:23:02,390 --> 00:22:59,280
wow did it really go and call one of its

589
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:02,400
friends you know it it it it's just very

590
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:05,200
fascinating i i put in the chat room a

591
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:07,760
link to the video so people can check it

592
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,520
out and we'll definitely put it up on

593
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:11,120
the website on your page when the

594
00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:13,039
interview's over um

595
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:15,520
it's mind-blowing i mean and to have

596
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:17,679
homeland security being the ones that

597
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:20,559
provided the video i mean come on now

598
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,600
that's been fantastic

599
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,600
yeah i mean well that's to me that was

600
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:27,520
one of the most outstanding aspects

601
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:30,480
because um you know and by the way

602
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:33,440
whenever i get serious about doing some

603
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:36,320
type of photo analysis

604
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:37,440
especially when i'm talking to

605
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:38,799
individuals

606
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,679
i

607
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:41,760
do not ever

608
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,039
vouch for that image unless i have met

609
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:47,200
the person who took it the homeland

610
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:48,640
security stuff's a little different

611
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:51,520
because that footage was was really sort

612
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:54,240
of leaked basically i mean it's it's i'm

613
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,520
not sure how officially it came out but

614
00:24:02,549 --> 00:23:59,919
you know puerto rico is kind of a small

615
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:02,559
place really it's 100 miles by 35 miles

616
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:03,840
but there's three and a half million

617
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:05,760
people who live here but they all kind

618
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:07,520
of seem to know each other through one

619
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:10,240
you know a few degrees of separation so

620
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:12,559
when that footage was captured

621
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,039
boom there was gossip all over town you

622
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,279
know i mean the first guy i talked to

623
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:19,520
said my brother who works at the airport

624
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:21,919
there and he works with homeland

625
00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:24,320
security and they they got a ufo last

626
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:26,320
night and i mean it was like everybody

627
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:28,400
knew this but it was probably over a

628
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,200
year

629
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,279
before anybody got to see the footage

630
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:33,840
outside of that little circle because

631
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:35,919
uh you know it it was

632
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,440
somebody put it on the internet i still

633
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,960
don't know who and i really don't want

634
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:40,559
to know who because i don't want to end

635
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,400
up in some congressional hearing that's

636
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:43,840
not the type of

637
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:46,559
tv coverage i'm looking for these days

638
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:49,840
um but as far as all the other images

639
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:52,799
uh you know i like for example there's

640
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,279
the object flying over top of the field

641
00:24:59,909 --> 00:24:57,039
that has all the cattle in it and the

642
00:25:02,789 --> 00:24:59,919
cattle look spooked you know yes

643
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,799
i mean i i i go right there and i meet

644
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,279
the photographers face to face

645
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,679
i ask them to bring their cell phone

646
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,440
because these days you know 90 of the

647
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,279
pictures people take gets taken on a

648
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:13,520
cell phone i ask them to bring the cell

649
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:14,400
phone

650
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,440
and i take their original image directly

651
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:19,600
off of their cell phone

652
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:22,000
now when you do that there is a lot of

653
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:25,520
metadata in there that you can analyze

654
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,840
and people would be surprised at how

655
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:29,440
much you can get now

656
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:32,480
anything can be fixed and i am very well

657
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,720
aware of that especially these days but

658
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,480
of course and we got to get to our first

659
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,559
break so uh you guys you're listening to

660
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:40,320
me heidi hollis the outlander and we

661
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,070
welcome back everybody you are listening

662
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:48,720
to me heidi hollis the outlander i have

663
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:51,039
a fantastic guest on this evening joshua

664
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:53,279
warren and we dropped him at a

665
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,640
cliffhanger speaking on how he likes to

666
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,559
grab photos directly from people's cell

667
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:00,880
phones so you could get all the metadata

668
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:04,000
and then what josh

669
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:07,120
well you know there's no huge big finish

670
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,520
to that but what i will say is that you

671
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:11,760
know it's it's funny that we live in a

672
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:13,440
day and age now

673
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:14,480
when

674
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,200
i know i was sitting recently at a table

675
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:19,520
with a group of friends and i said hey

676
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,840
guys little experiment i'll give

677
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:23,520
20

678
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:25,840
to whoever can take the first photograph

679
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,080
of this salt shaker okay and everybody

680
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:29,840
goes just clamoring as fast as they

681
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:31,840
could with their phone right that's a

682
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:33,760
good that's a fun game

683
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:35,360
it actually is unless you're the one

684
00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:37,440
putting out the twenty dollars oh yeah

685
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,679
but um and so maybe maybe i should say

686
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:41,520
i'll buy a free beer or whatever that

687
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:43,120
there you go i'd probably get the same

688
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:46,960
reaction and so um and i believe the the

689
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:49,600
fastest one that we got was ten seconds

690
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:51,120
and i was surprised i thought we might

691
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:53,200
have one even faster than that but the

692
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:55,520
point is we now live in a world where

693
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,919
everybody can you know take a picture

694
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:00,000
within seconds notice

695
00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:03,679
and you might think therefore well we

696
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:05,840
should have enough prominent footage

697
00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:09,200
everywhere in order to definitively say

698
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,320
we now have proof of uh ghosts and

699
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:14,640
aliens and ufos et cetera et cetera the

700
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:15,919
problem is

701
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:19,440
that same advance in technology has made

702
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,760
it easier than ever for people to hoax

703
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:23,360
and fake things

704
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:26,880
and so i get sent uh probably at least

705
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:30,240
50 to 100 images to take a look at

706
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:32,000
every single week

707
00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:34,159
and so i get to see a lot of the same

708
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:36,400
stuff over and over i mean you you now

709
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:39,120
have these apps out there which inspire

710
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,080
people

711
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,640
to fake a ghost photo you know they they

712
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,799
have a whole little menu of fake ghosts

713
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,559
you can select and flip through your

714
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,720
head

715
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:50,320
and what's funny is that from for the

716
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,240
average person i realize they don't mean

717
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:54,799
any harm they're just having fun it's

718
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:56,880
it's literally a little prank for them

719
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:59,520
but for me it you know it causes quite a

720
00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:01,679
little workload because i look at this

721
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:03,279
stuff and i you know i do this image

722
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:05,520
analysis stuff for free because i'm

723
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:07,919
interested in it and if somebody is

724
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,799
trying to pull my leg uh and i i mean

725
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,720
usually i can figure out almost

726
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,799
instantly if something is real but

727
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:16,320
sometimes

728
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,679
you know i find stuff that i need to

729
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,080
research a little bit more and uh

730
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:22,720
so i'd say every time i get one

731
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,440
good ghost picture or ufo picture i

732
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:27,919
probably look at you know a thousand

733
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:31,440
and so um so i i take it very seriously

734
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:33,600
and you know all these images that i put

735
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:35,200
into this video and other things that

736
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:38,000
you'll find um that i've put together

737
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,600
are the product of

738
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:41,120
you know not just looking at an image at

739
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:42,399
face value

740
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:44,960
but analyzing everything i can behind it

741
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,279
uh getting all the details about the

742
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,159
conditions you know the weather and the

743
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:52,640
uh witnesses and control photos and all

744
00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:53,760
that and then talking to the

745
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,240
photographer and so uh

746
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,320
it's important to take all that into

747
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,320
consideration when you're looking at uh

748
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,480
what may actually be real visual

749
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:04,960
evidence of something paranormal

750
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:06,799
yeah that's a lot of work people don't

751
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:09,200
realize what you've got to put into it

752
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,799
when you're involved in fields like this

753
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,279
it's it's fascinating it's fun but then

754
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:15,520
it gets tiresome with all the hoaxers

755
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:18,240
and it's like you gotta dig so darn deep

756
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:21,279
in order to get to the good stuff and

757
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,640
and then everything's a question you

758
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:24,880
know when i share something on facebook

759
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,399
i always have to put a question mark so

760
00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:28,799
what do you guys think you know

761
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,960
it's just you know because otherwise you

762
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:32,480
know you'll get these people get really

763
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:34,000
angry like can you really believe that

764
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,000
crap heidi i mean that's so and so and

765
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:38,159
i'm like oh good lord you know come on

766
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:39,039
you know

767
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,720
but are we to ignore absolutely

768
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,480
everything you know

769
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:44,480
i how do we know when we come across the

770
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:46,480
really good stuff as amateurs you know

771
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,039
who don't analyze these things fully

772
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:51,279
i mean it's really a shot in the dark

773
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:54,720
and um i i think for myself i don't know

774
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:56,399
what where you're at with this but when

775
00:30:01,830 --> 00:29:59,760
it comes to these types of odd stories

776
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:01,840
it's i don't really go out to try to

777
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,080
prove to people i'm like you know

778
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:06,080
sometimes you gotta pull the stuff

779
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:07,919
together and present it and allow them

780
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:10,399
to decide for themselves i mean what do

781
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:12,640
you what's your big angle you're a

782
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:15,840
science guy so you you can do that you

783
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:18,159
can go there and bring it to people the

784
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:20,799
way that they really need it to but even

785
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:23,679
then it's it's hard it's uphill battle

786
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,880
isn't it

787
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:26,559
well you know that's why

788
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:29,200
what really what i do in many cases is i

789
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:30,880
will do an experiment

790
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,159
and if i get some kind of just amazing

791
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,480
results then i will go out there and i

792
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,720
will present it to others and say

793
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,480
here's what i did

794
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,640
i'm not holding back any secrets there

795
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,799
are no secret herbs and spices there's

796
00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:46,799
no secret sauce here i'll tell you how i

797
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:48,159
did everything

798
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:50,240
and so you all you have to do is go out

799
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,360
there and

800
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:53,600
now you can do this on your own

801
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:55,919
and let's see what results that you get

802
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:57,919
and uh in fact i know one of the things

803
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,360
that uh we're going to talk about

804
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:01,679
tonight is this field that i have

805
00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:04,799
developed called parasimatics

806
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:07,520
and it ties really nicely into this

807
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:09,520
because a part of this

808
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:12,080
is me taking some of my results

809
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:13,279
and

810
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,000
begging people at all please go to my

811
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:18,480
website get this information

812
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:20,799
use it for free and this is not some

813
00:31:25,510 --> 00:31:22,640
kind of money making gimmick or anything

814
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:25,520
like that and send me your results

815
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:27,440
um and

816
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,720
in fact you want me to go ahead and

817
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:30,960
explain what parasimatics is these do

818
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:33,120
yeah well

819
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:34,159
this is

820
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:36,080
to really give you an idea of how this

821
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,440
started i've got to go back to 2010 when

822
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:41,519
i went to key west florida for the first

823
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:44,960
time and did an investigation of robert

824
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,679
the haunted doll oh that ugly thing oh

825
00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:51,679
gosh

826
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:54,159
be careful now heidi i know you can't

827
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:56,000
insult him he'll get you the average

828
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,760
person spends hours a week at the

829
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,760
grocery store but you're not an average

830
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:01,919
person are you there's a better way to

831
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842
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today robert is vengeful yes yes

843
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:31,600
and uh i was talking to my mom about

844
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,279
this the other day and as soon as i said

845
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:35,519
the name uh that we lost our phone

846
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:38,159
connection i was like ah robert

847
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:39,200
so anyway

848
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,840
um yeah robert the doll just you know he

849
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:43,840
has an extensive story i won't go into

850
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:45,760
all that but he's he's a large doll he's

851
00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:48,240
over three feet tall he's over 100 years

852
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:52,159
old he is now living at the uh museum

853
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:54,399
the east fort martello museum there in

854
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:55,519
key west

855
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,519
and um there have been all kinds of

856
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:59,200
stories over the decades about him

857
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,880
coming to life

858
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:03,120
and doing various things sometimes

859
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:06,640
mischievous sometimes outright scary

860
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:08,799
the screenwriter for the movie child's

861
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:09,600
play

862
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,159
said that he was partly inspired by

863
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:14,640
by robert to produce chucky

864
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:18,399
um so uh anyway robert the doll you know

865
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:21,600
he has this glass case around him

866
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:25,039
he's very very prized and and on a side

867
00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:26,320
note i'll mention that there are all

868
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,919
these letters that are all just

869
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:29,600
plastered thousands of letters on the

870
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:31,360
walls from people begging forgiveness

871
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:33,039
because they've gone down there and

872
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,559
they've taken this picture without

873
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:36,480
permission or they've

874
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,320
said something flippant about him and

875
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:40,000
then they've had bad luck and so they

876
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:43,279
write these letters to apologize

877
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:45,840
here we go down the hall oh no

878
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:50,710
so when i was there i was doing a really

879
00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:53,120
extensive investigation and the powers

880
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:55,440
that be were really nice and they

881
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:56,880
had a couple guys come out with these

882
00:34:01,990 --> 00:33:59,360
big suction cups and they lifted the

883
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:02,000
glass case off of robert the doll for

884
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,720
the first time in years

885
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,559
so that i could really get up close and

886
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:09,119
personal and do my investigation

887
00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:12,079
well one thing that i i wanted to do uh

888
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:14,000
is when i did a lot of stuff but one

889
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:15,599
thing i i didn't give them a wishing

890
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:18,320
machine just tell me you didn't

891
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:20,480
no no no okay

892
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,399
now rob i don't think robert needs any

893
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:24,639
help um

894
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,399
but i did shine a uv light on him now a

895
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,480
lot of people may not realize that glass

896
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,879
usually blocks out most uv light which

897
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,960
is why you don't get a sunburn when

898
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,720
you're driving down the road and your

899
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:38,480
window's up

900
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:40,720
so i knew when the glass was off this

901
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:42,879
was a rare opportunity to shine a uv

902
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:45,679
light on him and when i did that this

903
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:48,879
little symbol appeared on the sleeve of

904
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:51,919
his shirt that was otherwise invisible

905
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,679
to the naked eye

906
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,159
and this symbol looked a lot to me like

907
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,240
kind of a distorted snowflake or

908
00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:00,320
something like that

909
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,240
and of course i could not figure out

910
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,560
what it was why that would be there and

911
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:06,960
this led me to do a lot of research on

912
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:09,040
symbols and eventually i came to the

913
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:11,440
conclusion that this looks very much

914
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:12,240
like

915
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:15,040
what magicians for thousands of years

916
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:17,680
have referred to as sigils

917
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,599
and so uh and i mean this goes all the

918
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,680
way back to you know ancient hebrew

919
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:23,680
times uh they would talk about the uh

920
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,280
the segulum which meant a seal to

921
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:30,400
affect something or word or action

922
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:32,000
and so basically

923
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:33,200
um

924
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:35,680
this seemed to be perhaps the product of

925
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:38,240
some type of ultimate stamp that was

926
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,000
placed at the end of some type of a

927
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:42,560
magical ritual now the story had always

928
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:43,280
been

929
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:46,079
that there was a woman uh some type of

930
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:48,640
of a servant who lived in the home

931
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,200
of the otto family which that's where

932
00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:53,359
robert the dog came from who was

933
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:56,240
disgruntled and who had done something

934
00:36:02,069 --> 00:35:59,520
with this doll to manipulate it

935
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:02,079
so therefore i started looking into this

936
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:04,079
whole concept of how that

937
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:07,520
energy can be expressed in symbols

938
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:10,000
and what i found was that

939
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:10,960
if you

940
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:15,119
an energy form

941
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:17,359
and you focus it and condense it you

942
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:19,520
literally can turn it into a symbol that

943
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:21,520
is almost like an antenna

944
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,000
so in other words if you take that

945
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,480
energy and condense it into that form

946
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,560
that's one thing but if you

947
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:31,040
later walk into that form well you are

948
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,520
also encountering that energy

949
00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:35,599
and that may sound

950
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,760
kind of out there but it's not at all

951
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:39,760
because i started studying this field

952
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,320
which we now call cymatics

953
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,320
and it really starts with the work of a

954
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,040
german scientist named ernst chlodney

955
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:50,560
who lived in the late 1700s early 1800s

956
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:52,400
he would take a thin

957
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:56,160
piece of metal and sprinkle salt or sand

958
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:58,800
on top of it and then run a violin bow

959
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:00,800
down the edge and create these beautiful

960
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:03,040
striking patterns like these little

961
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,800
snowflakes and stuff have you seen those

962
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:07,280
types of patterns before i have yeah

963
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,040
yeah and anybody listening who hasn't

964
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:11,599
just go to youtube and type in cymatics

965
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,990
and and you can get the same effect now

966
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:19,680
if you take something like a little

967
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,480
piece of metal and with sand on it and

968
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:24,720
you put it over top of a speaker and you

969
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:26,800
play different tones and you'll see

970
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:28,960
these different types of patterns appear

971
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:31,280
so i started experimenting with making

972
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:34,000
patterns using different vibrations and

973
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,599
energy tones

974
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:36,960
and um

975
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:40,160
now here i am in on an island a lot of a

976
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:41,440
lot of the time here in the bermuda

977
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:43,280
triangle so i started doing this with

978
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:45,760
water so i would take salt water and

979
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,000
fresh water and different sometimes even

980
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:50,400
tonic water maybe gin and tonic no i'm

981
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,359
joking that i didn't go that far but i i

982
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,359
would never waste a gin and tonic i was

983
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,079
gonna say what yeah

984
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:01,040
gosh and uh i would play these different

985
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,760
patterns and underneath these containers

986
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:06,000
of water and get these amazing different

987
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:08,960
tones and get these amazing patterns

988
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:11,839
so uh then i thought about robert and i

989
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:14,079
was like well what if i look at this

990
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:16,720
stuff under different forms of light so

991
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:18,240
i would get these patterns on the

992
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:19,680
surface of the water

993
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:21,440
and then i would i would view them under

994
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:22,880
infrared light

995
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:26,079
and ultraviolet light and laser light

996
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:28,160
and when i would do that certain new

997
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:31,280
attributes would become visible

998
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:34,160
and so then i started to wonder okay

999
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,440
that's this is kind of when the light

1000
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:37,839
bulb went off what if

1001
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:40,240
instead of me just playing tones and

1002
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,240
getting these patterns

1003
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,119
what if i interwove these tones

1004
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:48,079
with specific messages

1005
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:48,960
and

1006
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:52,240
saw what kind of symbol was created

1007
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:55,280
so the first thing i did was i recorded

1008
00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:57,440
my own voice saying

1009
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:01,760
i want to attract a ghost here

1010
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:05,040
you are brazen dude what the heck that's

1011
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:06,880
a nice way of putting it other people

1012
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:09,599
have not been so complimentary yeah i

1013
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,480
bet

1014
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:15,670
so i um i i took a picture of the

1015
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:18,400
pattern that that appeared

1016
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:21,200
and then turned that into a symbol

1017
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,839
and my wife lauren

1018
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:26,160
went to bed and she is not into the

1019
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:28,560
paranormal like i am at all

1020
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:31,280
uh she will enjoy hearing my stories you

1021
00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:32,960
know after the fact

1022
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:35,119
over a martini or something but you know

1023
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:37,119
she's not one to go out in the field and

1024
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:38,240
do this stuff

1025
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,640
she went to bed and me

1026
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:42,640
not being the husband of the year went

1027
00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:46,880
up and put the sigil on the bedroom door

1028
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:50,920
oh my god you live to tell this story

1029
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:53,839
[Laughter]

1030
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:55,760
i've been up all night you know working

1031
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,760
on various things and that night i think

1032
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:59,200
i was just watching a movie or something

1033
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,119
so i came down here i am at 4 30 in the

1034
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,520
morning watching tv

1035
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:05,760
she's a very sound sleeper never wakes

1036
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,040
up and comes down in the middle of the

1037
00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:09,359
night she comes down the stairs and she

1038
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:11,839
said have you been coming in the bedroom

1039
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,079
i said nope why

1040
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:16,560
and she said well there must be a ghost

1041
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:18,079
in here then because something keeps

1042
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:19,760
shoving me and waking me up and it's

1043
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:22,640
freaking me out and i'm like yes you

1044
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:23,680
know

1045
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:24,640
so

1046
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:27,520
i told her what i'd done

1047
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:29,839
and yeah she was not happy about that so

1048
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:31,680
that was the end of putting the ghost

1049
00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:35,520
sigil up but i was so amazed

1050
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:37,359
so amazed

1051
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,680
by what had happened i started making a

1052
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:41,760
series of these things the next one i

1053
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,280
was like well

1054
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:45,760
for me i always think if you're going to

1055
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:47,040
experiment and you're really going to

1056
00:40:52,310 --> 00:40:48,880
see if something's working go to the

1057
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:52,320
casino and try to beat the odds

1058
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,040
yeah there is nothing more raw and real

1059
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:57,359
world than the casino as a laboratory

1060
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,720
because you go in there they're not

1061
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,560
playing around you know they they're

1062
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:03,119
just trying to to keep your money yeah

1063
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,920
so

1064
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:05,280
i created

1065
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:07,839
uh a sigil i'm attracting a flow of

1066
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:09,040
money

1067
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:12,480
and i took that with me to the casino

1068
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:15,280
and within the first 15 minutes of being

1069
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:18,319
there i had two jackpots back to back

1070
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:22,079
come on now at this point i'm like

1071
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:24,079
this is actually real you know like

1072
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,040
something is actually happening here

1073
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:29,280
and so i started making more of these

1074
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:30,720
sigils

1075
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:32,880
and i just started making these in april

1076
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:35,280
i haven't been doing this that long

1077
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:39,200
and i put these sigils on my website

1078
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,160
um and i and i tell i've been telling

1079
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,240
people every time i get a chance if i go

1080
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:46,319
on a radio show i say look

1081
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,720
go to my website

1082
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,640
what you do is you'll find some sigils

1083
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,400
there on the homepage if you scroll down

1084
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,319
they look really bizarre because this is

1085
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:56,560
what mother nature produced in in the

1086
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:58,800
water when i played these tones

1087
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,960
there's also a link you can click that

1088
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,680
gives you a list of updated ones

1089
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:05,440
take one of these things

1090
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,000
either put it on your your device like

1091
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,880
your phone or your computer uh or print

1092
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:12,319
it out and put it in a place where

1093
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:14,400
you'll look at it four or five times per

1094
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:16,880
day and then let me know what happens

1095
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,400
they look like dancing lizards i'm

1096
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:20,240
looking at them now

1097
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:22,480
i've heard a lot of weird descriptions

1098
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:24,560
but dancing lizards i'll take that that

1099
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:25,760
sounds like

1100
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:28,560
i mean they're very weird and and you

1101
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:29,359
know

1102
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:32,240
i'm telling you i have gotten so

1103
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,119
many emails from people telling me about

1104
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:37,680
these amazing experiences they've had

1105
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,200
with money with with love with psychic

1106
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:43,520
experiences i mean that's another one

1107
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,280
okay i i made one for psychic

1108
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:47,839
experiences i put it over my bed

1109
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:50,400
and i dream a lot anyway very vividly

1110
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:52,640
but i had a dream

1111
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:53,520
that

1112
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,800
one of my

1113
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,920
neighbors

1114
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:58,400
right down the the way here

1115
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:00,000
moved just

1116
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,880
some some totally mundane to me

1117
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:04,640
and then i get up the next day and i see

1118
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:07,040
them dragging furniture out and i went

1119
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,040
over and sure enough they had decided to

1120
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:11,440
move i mean just like stuff like that

1121
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:13,119
i've gotten so many positive

1122
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:15,280
testimonials i'm about to put up a web

1123
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:16,240
page

1124
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,079
that's got all these different quotes

1125
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,640
from what people are writing me and uh

1126
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:22,240
i've got two people who say they're

1127
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:25,760
actually now tattooing some of these oh

1128
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:26,880
come on

1129
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,920
wow

1130
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:30,160
oh now that's interesting i wonder what

1131
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:33,040
part of the body is gonna put some of

1132
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:35,119
these it's like i don't know if i want a

1133
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:37,359
big goose to buy a ghost i don't know if

1134
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:39,280
i'd put a [\h__\h] stamp of that ghost

1135
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,480
sigil there

1136
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:42,640
you know it's like there's a lot of it's

1137
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,520
a lot of a big variety what you can do

1138
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:47,680
with that you know what this reminds me

1139
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,640
of um i love the book uh

1140
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:52,880
secret life of water i'm sure you've

1141
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:55,839
you've seen that um mossero emoto i

1142
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,079
believe is the author of that and and

1143
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:01,200
what he did was subject water to hate

1144
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:02,880
and love and then he froze it

1145
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:05,119
crystallized it and and took pictures of

1146
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,040
the crystals that they formed and and if

1147
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:09,520
it was anger or hate

1148
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:12,160
they were distorted they were broken and

1149
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:15,119
uh when it was love and joy i mean

1150
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,240
beautiful sparkles of like look like

1151
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:21,200
snowflakes uh just just really cool

1152
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,480
stuff it's like

1153
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:25,440
it we really are a part of our

1154
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,640
environment and we do influence our

1155
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,800
environment and our envi environment

1156
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,400
influences us and

1157
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:34,240
i think once we

1158
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,800
begin to realize that very spiritual and

1159
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,160
and

1160
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:40,319
i don't know energy

1161
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:42,720
that that surrounds us and and link up

1162
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:44,720
to it i think that you know sky's the

1163
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:47,280
limit i i and it's it's so cool the

1164
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,200
stuff that you've been able to tap into

1165
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:51,280
because i think that it was actually

1166
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:53,440
your videos uh

1167
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:56,960
on these uh somatics that i first seen

1168
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,240
and what was that uh with the leaf uh oh

1169
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:01,920
what is that photography called that you

1170
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:03,680
were doing where you'd cut off a part of

1171
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,119
the leaf and you took pictures i'm like

1172
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:07,920
that freaking josh is cool look at that

1173
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:09,920
yeah curly and photography yeah that's

1174
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:14,480
it yes oh just fascinating stuff i mean

1175
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:17,359
i you know your wife she she's a strong

1176
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:20,480
woman she's a strong woman

1177
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,520
but

1178
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:23,040
whenever she wonders what you're doing

1179
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:24,960
just say just paying the bills hon

1180
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,040
earning my keep that's all

1181
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,520
exactly what i say do you

1182
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:31,680
yes i'm like somebody's gotta make the

1183
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:33,359
money around here

1184
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:35,920
and uh funny oh my gosh

1185
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:37,680
no but you know what's what's uh

1186
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,839
interesting is honestly i've been

1187
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:41,839
self-employed now

1188
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,400
since i was 18 years old

1189
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:46,560
and and i've done that

1190
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:49,839
by um doing what i love you know it's

1191
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,079
like doing this kind of research writing

1192
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,319
books that people actually read

1193
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,319
giving speaking presentations that

1194
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,079
people actually pay to go

1195
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:00,480
see i have tours that run in asheville i

1196
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:03,680
have museums and i i realized a long

1197
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:06,160
time ago that if i'm not doing stuff

1198
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:08,800
that's really innovative and interesting

1199
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,200
um nobody's gonna care you know nobody's

1200
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:13,520
gonna pay for it and so that gives me

1201
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:15,359
motivation because i'm always trying to

1202
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:17,280
come up with good stuff and i realize

1203
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,760
that if i promote something that's just

1204
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,359
a bunch of bs

1205
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,800
um i

1206
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:25,280
very quickly you know i will just

1207
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:28,000
pull the steam right out of any prospect

1208
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,160
that i have to continue doing good

1209
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,640
research because i depend on

1210
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:34,800
the support of the people and i depend

1211
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:36,720
on good folks like you who will have me

1212
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:38,640
on your radio program and talk about

1213
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:41,359
this and so sometimes i come up with an

1214
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:43,680
idea for something that's super weird

1215
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:45,760
and i'm a little afraid because i think

1216
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,240
okay this makes sense to me

1217
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,720
but am i going to be able to explain

1218
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:52,480
this properly

1219
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:55,119
when i'm trying to tell other folks what

1220
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:56,640
i'm up to here

1221
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,680
and boy that's the joy of all this

1222
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:01,599
yeah yeah and so

1223
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,319
so i love interactive things like this

1224
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:06,560
where you can where i can say look

1225
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:08,000
you go

1226
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,800
you use this thing and then you tell me

1227
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:12,640
what happens now i know

1228
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,359
if if you want to look at this from

1229
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,280
like a devil's advocate point of view

1230
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:19,440
you can say well okay let's say a

1231
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:20,800
thousand people

1232
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:23,359
uh take let's say the money sigil

1233
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:26,079
and let's say 100 people have some type

1234
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:29,440
of success and 900 don't well you're

1235
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,040
most likely going to hear from the

1236
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:33,520
people who do so that might give you a

1237
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,640
skewed dynamic but the difference is

1238
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:38,880
the people who are contacting me and

1239
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:41,520
telling me that they're having success

1240
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:43,839
are not just having success

1241
00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:46,319
they're having things that are so

1242
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:49,599
profound that they just come totally out

1243
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:51,599
of left field i mean that's what i love

1244
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:53,280
about these emails people write me and

1245
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:54,880
they're like look

1246
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:57,440
this was impossible like this couldn't

1247
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,800
happen and yet it happened within a day

1248
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:03,040
you know and so it's not just the fact

1249
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:04,800
that it happens it's the way in which it

1250
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:07,200
happens and so by getting everybody sort

1251
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,720
of involved

1252
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:10,240
i'm able to take something which

1253
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:11,839
otherwise can't necessarily be

1254
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:13,599
quantified

1255
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:14,480
and

1256
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:22,079
the wishing machine as well

1257
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:24,720
i mean there are thousands and thousands

1258
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,400
of people all around the world and just

1259
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,559
about every country you can imagine even

1260
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:29,920
countries i've never even heard of

1261
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:31,599
before that have bought one of our

1262
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:33,200
wishing machines

1263
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:34,480
and if they

1264
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,440
use it properly um and of course that

1265
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:39,839
means they're you have to wish for

1266
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:41,599
things that are within the bounds of

1267
00:48:46,829 --> 00:48:43,839
nature you know you can't wish to

1268
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:46,839
fly like superman or you know live

1269
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:47,920
forever or whatever

1270
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:50,720
um but if you wish for things properly

1271
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:53,599
then i mean it's an incredible tool that

1272
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,760
helps these things materialize very

1273
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,800
quickly

1274
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:58,720
and so but there's no way to

1275
00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:00,800
scientifically put that under a

1276
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,440
microscope because every human being is

1277
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,240
unique every human being's circumstances

1278
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:08,640
are unique and so the best we can do is

1279
00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:12,640
get feedback and uh what we find is that

1280
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:14,319
you know these areas that we're dealing

1281
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:15,200
with

1282
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:17,920
they they blur the line sometimes

1283
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:21,119
between like newtonian physics for every

1284
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:22,640
action there's an opposite but equal

1285
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:23,760
reaction

1286
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,400
and the impact that consciousness makes

1287
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:28,319
on all this and

1288
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,000
it's funny because you know we started

1289
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:32,960
talking about the oufos

1290
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:34,960
and how ultimately they relate to

1291
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:36,800
consciousness now we're talking about

1292
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:38,960
this other thing which may seem

1293
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:41,359
unrelated but it is related because

1294
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,000
parasitics is also about how

1295
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:46,400
consciousness produces that non-physical

1296
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:49,680
mold that reshapes the physical world

1297
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:52,960
my my brain just exploded um i you know

1298
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,319
what i am dying to know if you know if

1299
00:50:00,549 --> 00:49:58,880
any politicians bought your wishing

1300
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:00,559
machine i'm just throwing that out there

1301
00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:02,960
just just randomly

1302
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:05,760
well it's interesting that you say that

1303
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:08,880
because i will tell you this um

1304
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:11,119
even though i do have a strict policy of

1305
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:14,720
honoring uh our our customers anonymity

1306
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:16,559
if they want it

1307
00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:19,040
through the election process

1308
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,920
i saw a lot of familiar last names

1309
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:23,280
coming in

1310
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:24,960
as the orders

1311
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:30,160
no yeah and seriously and uh so i mean i

1312
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,040
i i struggled with the ethics of like

1313
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,880
should i mention this on facebook

1314
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:36,880
because this is really interesting

1315
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:39,760
or not and i figured uh i better not but

1316
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:41,760
sure enough that's a very good question

1317
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:44,720
and yes uh i i saw a lot of familiar

1318
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:46,960
last names

1319
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:50,000
the plot thickens um putin no i'm just

1320
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,950
oh

1321
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,960
he already has one he

1322
00:51:02,230 --> 00:50:59,040
he probably invented the damn thing he

1323
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,240
probably did my gosh it's not like

1324
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:04,800
people are gonna vote anyways so i mean

1325
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:07,839
gosh he's already got an n

1326
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:09,839
that's just mind-blowing but i i mean it

1327
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,839
makes sense i mean might as well you

1328
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,200
know

1329
00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:15,599
i can imagine a a whole lot of wishes

1330
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,359
being uh put out there for such a thing

1331
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,440
but we're gonna get to our next break

1332
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:21,119
you guys you're listening to me heidi is

1333
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:27,349
welcome back everybody you're listening

1334
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:29,280
to me heidi hollis the outlander

1335
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:30,880
remembering always if it's weird we're

1336
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,760
here and we have got joshua warren we

1337
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,520
are talking about everything under the

1338
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:37,440
sun and i'm not kidding

1339
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,119
this man if you can imagine it witness

1340
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:43,359
it this man has dug deep into it and

1341
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:45,839
written about it so um i guess that's

1342
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:47,599
kind of why i think of you like a bro of

1343
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:49,440
some sort i don't know and because i i

1344
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:51,520
got to know you on a different level

1345
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,680
hanging out with you at times and

1346
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,440
i don't know you're you're you're you're

1347
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:57,599
a really really like

1348
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:01,200
easy person to know and to like and i

1349
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:03,040
think a lot of people appreciate how

1350
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:04,960
approachable you are and how real you

1351
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:07,280
are and how you go about presenting the

1352
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:09,920
topics that you do so i mean i i mean i

1353
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:12,400
think it's quite unique to the field so

1354
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:14,480
kudos to you josh

1355
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,240
well thank you very much for saying that

1356
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,400
because as soon as i met you i mean it

1357
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:20,240
was like instantly we were on the same

1358
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:23,119
wavelength yeah um and i think a part of

1359
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,319
it is

1360
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:26,480
for one thing

1361
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,240
you can be interested in this field but

1362
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:30,480
you're never gonna get it unless you

1363
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:31,920
actually understand that there's

1364
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:34,319
something inherently absurd about all of

1365
00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:35,599
this

1366
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:37,839
and you can laugh at yourself too

1367
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:40,960
you know yeah and so you have that great

1368
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:43,359
warmth and charm that exudes all around

1369
00:52:47,829 --> 00:52:44,960
you and you and i would just sit around

1370
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:47,839
and laugh till tears streaming about

1371
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:50,079
some of these things that you know it's

1372
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:52,079
just like um

1373
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:53,599
a part of it is almost sort of

1374
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:56,400
understanding how arrogant that most

1375
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:58,319
people are to think that they actually

1376
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:00,720
understand what the heck is going on

1377
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:03,680
here you know i mean yeah how silly are

1378
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:05,760
people to believe well this is

1379
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:08,240
impossible because i was raised this way

1380
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:10,240
oh you know okay good for you but yeah i

1381
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:12,079
mean you can look at any

1382
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:15,200
any previous generation i not even that

1383
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:18,160
far ago i mean like maybe 10 years ago

1384
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:19,760
and look at what they knew about the

1385
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:22,000
world and it's dramatically different

1386
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:23,280
now yes

1387
00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:24,240
um

1388
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,079
and in some cases i mean i was talking

1389
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:28,319
the other day as well i mentioned i uh i

1390
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,160
have some online paranormal uh

1391
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:32,720
investigation classes that i do now

1392
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:35,119
they're all pre-recorded and one of the

1393
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:36,640
things i was talking about is that

1394
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:38,800
scientists didn't acknowledge the

1395
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:42,640
existence of dinosaurs until the 1800s

1396
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:44,800
uh and you know dinosaurs have they've

1397
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:46,880
always been here as long as we've been

1398
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,680
here

1399
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:49,920
um but in the past if somebody would

1400
00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:52,160
uncover some kind of big crazy looking

1401
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:53,839
skeleton they're like there were there

1402
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:57,200
once was dragons here you know and uh so

1403
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,280
everybody blew it off as being some kind

1404
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,920
of foolishness but you know in reality

1405
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,920
there were dragons i mean you know you

1406
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:05,839
can go to the museum and see them now we

1407
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:07,920
call them no pterodactyls or whatever

1408
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:12,000
but yeah um so uh and then i i if i'm

1409
00:54:17,589 --> 00:54:16,800
not mistaken um up until like the 1990s

1410
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:17,599
we

1411
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:21,839
the planets in our own solar system and

1412
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:23,440
then all of a sudden boom

1413
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:25,839
now there is an infinite number of

1414
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:29,359
planets uh all over the universe so

1415
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,240
it's amazing how people continue to

1416
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,400
believe their own point of view is the

1417
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:36,480
right one and i think again that's what

1418
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:38,000
something you and i have in common is

1419
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:41,119
that uh we are humble enough to realize

1420
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:41,920
that

1421
00:54:48,790 --> 00:54:47,040
um we don't know everything and uh

1422
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:48,800
there's a lot to be learned and that's

1423
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:51,520
what makes it fun and exciting so true

1424
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,920
oh my gosh you know i swear i'm going to

1425
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:55,200
my next move

1426
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:57,200
and this is i almost did this i almost

1427
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,880
bought a place in puerto rico and then i

1428
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:00,720
heard you move to puerto rico i'm like

1429
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:02,960
if i knew that dude was there i'd be

1430
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,960
going over there all the time and just

1431
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:07,040
cracking up and having way too much fun

1432
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:07,920
but

1433
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:12,549
it's not off the table yet i mean

1434
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:15,760
honestly i i would like a change but um

1435
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:19,200
i'm in chicago you know come on um

1436
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:22,319
but you know it i think it's uh

1437
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:23,760
you know anybody that that claims to

1438
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:26,240
have all the answers and knows 100 of of

1439
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:29,359
everything i mean run just run it's it's

1440
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:31,760
not true you know it's not happening and

1441
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:33,440
you know and i think the more that we

1442
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:35,520
rely upon each other you know as human

1443
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:36,640
beings

1444
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:38,480
and take people's word for things

1445
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,480
sometimes you know when you when you

1446
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,839
interview people and you hear their

1447
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,520
heart felt please about what it is that

1448
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:45,680
they've experienced sometimes that's

1449
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:48,960
proof enough for me and understanding a

1450
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:50,640
different element of you know because

1451
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:52,000
i've been there where i've experienced

1452
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,480
something so just bizarre i know that

1453
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,160
people couldn't relate and then to see

1454
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:58,319
that that same expression coming out of

1455
00:56:01,270 --> 00:56:00,160
somebody like you just know when you hit

1456
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:01,280
that

1457
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,200
maybe not but

1458
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:07,839
that's why it's so important to you know

1459
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:09,760
just present it and say you know take it

1460
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:11,599
for what it is and you know make your

1461
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:14,000
own decision so i i applaud you know

1462
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:16,799
anybody that that goes into this field

1463
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:19,920
and uh could do what you do i mean i i

1464
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:22,079
don't know many people who could say

1465
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,720
that they can rely upon their work in

1466
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:26,559
this field as you know getting by in

1467
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:28,079
this life it

1468
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:31,200
that's cool because one day one day josh

1469
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,280
if i ever get to that point

1470
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:36,000
i i would love to be able to do it to

1471
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:38,079
help more people that's my whole goal

1472
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:40,000
reaching more people and opening up

1473
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:41,920
their eyes to the real reality that

1474
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,240
we're all a part of and uh i feel that

1475
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:46,000
that's part of you know what drives you

1476
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:48,079
as well i mean it's

1477
00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:49,920
it's for curiosity's sake and it's for

1478
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:51,839
mankind's sake

1479
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:53,599
well that's right and what you find is

1480
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:56,480
that um it really does go hand in hand i

1481
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:59,200
mean that if you're doing something good

1482
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:01,520
that people find valuable that makes

1483
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:04,000
their lives better then they will stick

1484
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,960
with you

1485
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:06,720
and and what's funny is that when it

1486
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:10,079
comes to all this paranormal research

1487
00:57:14,750 --> 00:57:12,319
it's easy to say okay we'll look at

1488
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:14,760
something like the wishing machine or

1489
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:17,359
parasimatics and you hear me talking

1490
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,280
about using it to make money you know to

1491
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,119
go to the casino and to win and stuff

1492
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:23,680
like that it's easy for somebody to say

1493
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:26,319
well this guy he's just interested in

1494
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:28,000
the money you know

1495
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:29,920
but the reality is

1496
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:30,799
um

1497
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:31,760
why

1498
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:34,640
should we be doing any kind of research

1499
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:37,680
if ultimately the benefit

1500
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,440
is not to improve lives yeah um and and

1501
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:43,440
so it doesn't matter how you're doing

1502
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:44,880
that if you're doing it through getting

1503
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,920
money or improving your relationships or

1504
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:49,440
even you know your health for that

1505
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,599
matter which is something that i don't

1506
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:53,520
talk very much about because i'm not a

1507
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:54,400
doctor

1508
00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:57,280
but nonetheless um if you know all this

1509
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,599
the whole point of learning new things

1510
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:00,960
is to

1511
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:04,559
to benefit life to make your life better

1512
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:07,200
and and i realized a long time ago yeah

1513
00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:09,280
i can put together some kind of big

1514
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:12,400
crazy rig and use it to try to create a

1515
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:14,960
tulpa or a ghost or some kind of creepy

1516
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:17,680
thing and i've done that many times as a

1517
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:20,240
matter of fact in 2012 there was a

1518
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:21,920
warner brothers horror movie that came

1519
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:23,760
out called the apparition

1520
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:24,640
and

1521
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:27,359
i was hired to be a consultant on that

1522
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:28,240
movie

1523
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:30,720
and the the blu-ray

1524
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:32,559
extras have

1525
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:36,079
just tons of different pieces showing me

1526
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:37,839
and my team

1527
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:40,559
in the lab trying to turn on you know

1528
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:43,040
various types of tesla coils and van de

1529
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:44,640
graaff generators and sync all this

1530
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:46,880
stuff up while inputting a desire to

1531
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:50,160
create a an apparition etc etc but what

1532
00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:52,160
i'm getting at here is you can you can

1533
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:54,079
use all these experiments to try to

1534
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,200
manifest a ghost or a ufo or some kind

1535
00:59:01,670 --> 00:58:59,359
of weird thing but what you find out is

1536
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:01,680
that you can also

1537
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,319
use these exact same kinds of techniques

1538
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:07,200
to manifest the normal stuff that we all

1539
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:08,079
need

1540
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,200
uh you know a happy life and and the

1541
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:13,599
resources to live that happy life so

1542
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,839
it's not just restricted to one area and

1543
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:17,359
so

1544
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:19,760
anybody who gets into this whole subject

1545
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,720
matter

1546
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:22,640
is really somebody who ought to be

1547
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:26,000
interested in manifestation in general

1548
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,000
as you mentioned in my bio it's about

1549
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,559
that relationship between matter and

1550
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:32,400
energy and all the different ways that

1551
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:34,480
those things can interact and uh and

1552
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:36,240
materialize you know something that

1553
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:39,280
we're chatting about over the break now

1554
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:41,440
when it comes to your wishing machine

1555
00:59:44,829 --> 00:59:43,119
and if people

1556
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:44,839
say i don't know people running for

1557
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,839
office happen to own one and are wishing

1558
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:49,680
for the same thing

1559
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:52,880
how do they how do they work that way

1560
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:54,640
yeah this is a really interesting

1561
00:59:59,829 --> 00:59:56,960
question that dr mulder who makes the

1562
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,839
wishing machines and i deal with a lot

1563
01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:01,760
um for one thing

1564
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:03,040
you know uh

1565
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,559
and i you know if you have the super

1566
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:06,319
bowl for example there's only two

1567
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:07,920
options either this team's going to win

1568
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:09,920
or that team is going to win if you have

1569
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,839
people on one side that are using

1570
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:13,520
wishing machines and people on the other

1571
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,599
side using wishing machines well what

1572
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:17,040
happens then

1573
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:19,760
and what we find is that

1574
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:21,680
um it really

1575
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:22,400
to

1576
01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:24,160
a certain extent now there are obviously

1577
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:26,480
other variables involved such as skill

1578
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:28,880
and talent and all that but as far as

1579
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:31,359
the the intent is concerned at that

1580
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:35,119
point it really does become a matter of

1581
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:37,599
this variable of intent

1582
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:39,920
and the strength and power of it and

1583
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:42,559
then the collective amount of it versus

1584
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:44,480
the other one and that's why we tell

1585
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:46,160
people all the time if you're going to

1586
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:48,240
use a wishing machine people ask us they

1587
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:50,559
say can i hit the lottery with this

1588
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:52,960
and i always say look

1589
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:55,920
um it's not good to use these things for

1590
01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:57,839
hitting the lotto i people have hit the

1591
01:01:00,950 --> 01:01:00,079
lotto using them that has happened

1592
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:00,960
but

1593
01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:03,280
the problem with the lotto is you have

1594
01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:06,319
essentially you know one big prize and

1595
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:08,720
you have thousands or millions of people

1596
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:10,880
who are focusing on that one thing

1597
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:13,119
and so what that does is it breaks the

1598
01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:14,880
odds down

1599
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:17,839
and it gives you a smaller percentage

1600
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:20,160
you're much much better off to go into a

1601
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:22,559
casino where there are lots of different

1602
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:24,720
machines and everybody's attention is

1603
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:26,960
distributed all over the place it's a

1604
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:28,960
lot easier to go in and manipulate one

1605
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:31,520
particular game at one particular time

1606
01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:35,520
than it is to focus on one big prize

1607
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:37,200
i've often said it's one thing if you

1608
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:38,480
want to have

1609
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:39,920
uh you know you want to wish for an

1610
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:42,480
aston martin that's no big deal but if

1611
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:45,040
you want you know the the aston martin

1612
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:47,920
db3 or whatever that sean connery drove

1613
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:50,640
the movie gold fingers

1614
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:52,960
now you're getting so specific there are

1615
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,119
a lot of people that you're up against

1616
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:57,440
with it with in terms of intent because

1617
01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:59,680
these are mind-powered machines

1618
01:02:03,670 --> 01:02:01,839
uh but furthermore you have to realize

1619
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:03,680
that uh there are two other important

1620
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:07,680
things to point out number one sometimes

1621
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:10,000
what you think will make you happy is

1622
01:02:14,950 --> 01:02:12,400
not actually what will make you happy

1623
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:14,960
in my book use the force i wrote about a

1624
01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:17,760
man who lived i believe in chicago heidi

1625
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:18,559
who

1626
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:21,760
won a 300 million dollar powerball

1627
01:02:26,470 --> 01:02:24,960
and was generous and bought houses for

1628
01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:26,480
his family and friends the average

1629
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:28,160
person spends hours a week at the

1630
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:30,240
grocery store but you're not an average

1631
01:02:33,990 --> 01:02:32,319
person are you there's a better way to

1632
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:34,000
get fresh groceries and it's called

1633
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:36,240
fresh direct shop for just pick fruit

1634
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:37,920
and vegetables custom cut meat and

1635
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,319
seafood freshly made meals and meal kits

1636
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,240
all your favorite brands plus hundreds

1637
01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:44,400
of weekly deals order fresh direct

1638
01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:46,640
anytime anywhere and get the freshest

1639
01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:48,640
groceries delivered to your door use

1640
01:02:53,870 --> 01:02:51,680
code playlist to get 25 off your first

1641
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:53,880
order of 99 or more visit

1642
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:55,839
freshdirect.com or download the app

1643
01:03:00,549 --> 01:02:58,799
today moons and cars and all that but uh

1644
01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:00,559
one of his

1645
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:03,200
in-laws thought that she was not treated

1646
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:05,359
generously enough and so she and her

1647
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,480
boyfriend

1648
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:08,720
hatched a scheme and they kidnapped this

1649
01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:10,960
guy and held them for ransom and things

1650
01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:13,440
went awry and so they ended up killing

1651
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:15,760
him oh typical chicagoans i mean what

1652
01:03:19,270 --> 01:03:17,680
are we talking about i'm just kidding

1653
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:19,280
i'm just kidding

1654
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:21,680
uh so you have that to deal with but

1655
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:22,960
here's the thing that's even more

1656
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:24,559
interesting and i was talking to dr

1657
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:26,240
mulder about this the other day and by

1658
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:27,920
the way you know that's not his real

1659
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,960
name but

1660
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:30,559
dr mulder the man who makes these

1661
01:03:35,109 --> 01:03:32,880
wishing machines he is very very

1662
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:35,119
particular about his privacy because you

1663
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:37,599
can imagine when you get a reputation

1664
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:39,280
for being the guy who makes the wishing

1665
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:40,319
machines

1666
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:42,000
people will beat a path to your door and

1667
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:43,680
crawl on your window

1668
01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:44,559
so

1669
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,160
he and i were talking about the fact

1670
01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:48,480
that we have a lot of cases like like

1671
01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:50,079
this one for example where there was a

1672
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:51,119
lady

1673
01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:53,119
who bought a wishing machine

1674
01:03:59,750 --> 01:03:56,799
and she said i uh i hate my job

1675
01:04:01,750 --> 01:03:59,760
and i'm not making enough money and i

1676
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:01,760
need a complete you know change of

1677
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:04,160
lifestyle and so it's like okay great

1678
01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:06,480
you know so she got the machine she got

1679
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,039
the instructions and then she contacted

1680
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,280
us a couple weeks later and was really

1681
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,680
angry and she goes man this machine is

1682
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:15,839
terrible it did the exact opposite of

1683
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:18,640
what i i got fired from my job she goes

1684
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:20,319
now i can you know i don't even have

1685
01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:22,799
anything coming in anymore and

1686
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:25,039
so we were like well just be patient you

1687
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:28,079
know so a couple weeks later she emails

1688
01:04:32,309 --> 01:04:30,400
this and she goes oh my god i got the

1689
01:04:35,190 --> 01:04:32,319
job of my dreams

1690
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:35,200
i'm now making more money than ever i

1691
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,440
have never been so happy and she goes

1692
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:39,839
down this whole big list of how great

1693
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:42,160
things have worked out and what she and

1694
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:44,559
a lot of people don't realize is that if

1695
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:46,480
you make a wish or you're trying to

1696
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:48,240
manifest something and you're serious

1697
01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:49,440
about it

1698
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:51,359
if you really want to change in your

1699
01:04:56,309 --> 01:04:53,039
life the only way it's going to happen

1700
01:04:59,349 --> 01:04:56,319
is for the old life to first break down

1701
01:05:01,829 --> 01:04:59,359
so that the new life can be born

1702
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:01,839
and so it's natural for people to panic

1703
01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:03,680
a little bit when you go through that

1704
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,680
transitional phase

1705
01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:07,440
which is one thing that i also i wrote a

1706
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:09,680
whole chapter about this and and use the

1707
01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:12,720
force and so uh you have to understand

1708
01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:14,240
that when you wish for these things

1709
01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:16,400
they're not especially if it's something

1710
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:17,359
big

1711
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:19,200
uh it's not necessarily going to just

1712
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:21,599
materialize like leprechaun gold and

1713
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:23,119
follow your feet

1714
01:05:29,109 --> 01:05:26,000
you know there's a process

1715
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:29,119
and it's a deconstruction that

1716
01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:30,640
will very quickly lead to a

1717
01:05:35,109 --> 01:05:32,720
reconstruction and that's how

1718
01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:35,119
reality brings this stuff to you it

1719
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:37,280
makes sense when i think about you know

1720
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:39,839
when people go to hone in and and pray

1721
01:05:45,190 --> 01:05:42,160
for you or something along those lines

1722
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:45,200
and like if there was an amplifier for

1723
01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:48,319
prayers i would be passing it out and

1724
01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:50,720
saying everybody just just put your

1725
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:53,760
finger in in this box and pray and put

1726
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:55,200
it in there so i could get all the good

1727
01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:57,839
mojo to focus the way i want it i mean

1728
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:00,480
it sounds like it's it's an amplifier of

1729
01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:02,400
good vibes and

1730
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:03,760
what you know what could be so wrong

1731
01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:06,480
about that i i i'm all for it if if it's

1732
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:08,960
helping people and and you know

1733
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:10,240
it's interesting or you're talking about

1734
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:12,720
the lady and and how people might might

1735
01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:14,319
panic like you know they want something

1736
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:16,880
to happen so bad and and they

1737
01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:19,200
they they think what's a catastrophe

1738
01:06:22,710 --> 01:06:20,720
that's going to rip them down was

1739
01:06:25,029 --> 01:06:22,720
actually you know

1740
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,039
kicking a stone out of the way so a

1741
01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:27,680
mountain could form you know and it's

1742
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:30,400
it's kind of a it's kind of cool i i i'm

1743
01:06:33,670 --> 01:06:31,920
not kidding you i was i was looking for

1744
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:33,680
something today and i'm like oh i just

1745
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:36,160
can't believe i can't find this other

1746
01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:38,079
thing and i'm just looking all over and

1747
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:39,119
i'm in a rush i'm trying to get

1748
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:40,960
somewhere and

1749
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:43,839
had i not been looking for that um i

1750
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:45,280
wouldn't have stumbled across something

1751
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:46,960
that i really needed for this weekend

1752
01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:49,280
that i'm leaving town for

1753
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:50,319
like

1754
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:51,599
that's why it happened right there

1755
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,760
that's you know you think you got things

1756
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,920
figured out and it's like nope god

1757
01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:57,520
wanted that to happen the way it did

1758
01:07:02,309 --> 01:06:59,440
because now i've got this and you know

1759
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:02,319
things are even better so i i think this

1760
01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:05,039
life is interesting in how that

1761
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:06,799
you know things pulled together i wanted

1762
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:09,039
to get to a question that the people

1763
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:11,280
have been popping up some questions in

1764
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:13,440
the chat room i apologize guys but

1765
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:15,760
there's one that popped up in regards to

1766
01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:18,640
the oh ufos um

1767
01:07:23,109 --> 01:07:20,720
this is from max i believe and they're

1768
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:23,119
asking if you think that there is a

1769
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:25,520
power source beneath the water like

1770
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:27,680
pyramids or something in that that area

1771
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:29,920
puerto rico where these craft are being

1772
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:31,039
seen

1773
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:33,200
yeah that's a great question because we

1774
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:36,640
do have some underwater imaging

1775
01:07:41,829 --> 01:07:39,599
that uh actually is taken from work that

1776
01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:41,839
uh noah has done

1777
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:44,160
that shows some

1778
01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:47,440
very artificial looking

1779
01:07:50,710 --> 01:07:48,640
shapes

1780
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:50,720
under the water off the coast of puerto

1781
01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:53,520
rico in various places

1782
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:56,160
there has long been talk about bases

1783
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:57,119
here

1784
01:08:02,390 --> 01:07:59,520
and i've gone out with fishermen who

1785
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:02,400
have lived here their entire lives and

1786
01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:04,240
all of them have stories about seeing

1787
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:06,720
submarines and things like that but

1788
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,559
sometimes you talk to somebody who tells

1789
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:10,400
you a story that just you know really

1790
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:11,920
blows your mind that seems very

1791
01:08:16,149 --> 01:08:14,640
believable and authentic and and most of

1792
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,159
it has to do with

1793
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:18,640
um seeing one of these

1794
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:21,520
these things fly in or out of the water

1795
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:25,120
and then zip off into into space and um

1796
01:08:29,749 --> 01:08:25,920
so

1797
01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:29,759
power supply i i've never seen a

1798
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:31,759
particular pyramid

1799
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:33,759
down there under the water but there are

1800
01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:35,520
certainly structures down there that

1801
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:38,080
look uh different than what the forces

1802
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:40,239
of nature would produce on their own i

1803
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:42,080
hope it's not something like from the

1804
01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:44,560
pacific rim movie you know some

1805
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:46,880
big monsters are going to come out um

1806
01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:48,880
you know and we're we're running so

1807
01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:50,799
close on time i wanted to get to your

1808
01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:52,640
projects you've got a couple of shows

1809
01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:55,040
coming out later this year one of them

1810
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:56,640
you could speak on one of them you can't

1811
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:58,239
so let's let's

1812
01:09:02,070 --> 01:09:00,159
get to it what are the what's the name

1813
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:02,080
of the one that you can talk about

1814
01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:04,400
yeah well um there is a series that is

1815
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:06,640
now scheduled to debut on the history

1816
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:10,159
channel july 11th called american ripper

1817
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:12,960
and um just to show you the uh i guess

1818
01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:14,560
the diversity of things that i'm

1819
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:17,839
interested in this is a show

1820
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:21,199
that explores the possibility

1821
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:23,920
that h.h holmes who is considered

1822
01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:26,480
america's first serial killer

1823
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:29,839
may have actually been connected to the

1824
01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:33,199
jack the ripper murders in london

1825
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:34,799
that and there's a lot more to it it's

1826
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:36,560
an eight-part series

1827
01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:39,040
and i work behind the scenes on that one

1828
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:42,080
as an associate producer uh it's really

1829
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:43,679
based upon the

1830
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,719
life story of my friend jeff mudgett who

1831
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:48,480
found out that he was a direct

1832
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:51,759
descendant of hh homes and so as i was

1833
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:54,480
telling you on on off off the air it

1834
01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:57,120
says i i really enjoy working behind the

1835
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:59,120
scenes because i don't have to like work

1836
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:00,800
out or lose weight or anything i can

1837
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:03,520
just i hear ya

1838
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:05,520
yeah and so yeah that'll be coming out

1839
01:10:09,669 --> 01:10:07,280
july 11th and

1840
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:09,679
and it was actually going to originally

1841
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,320
air in april but um

1842
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:15,120
some really amazing stuff happened at

1843
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:16,480
the last minute

1844
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:18,640
which i i that will i'll be killed if i

1845
01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:21,040
spoiled this that um

1846
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:23,360
made them the network decide to delay it

1847
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:26,400
a little bit so now uh next month you

1848
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:29,120
know be put down on your dvr july 11th

1849
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:30,560
america

1850
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:32,000
and then um

1851
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:33,840
yeah then the other one is something

1852
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,239
that's going to come out around

1853
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:38,400
halloween and

1854
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:40,320
that one is

1855
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:41,280
it's

1856
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:43,280
i'm actually going to be filming that

1857
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,800
one um

1858
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:46,320
toward the end of next month so i'm

1859
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:47,840
going to be out in los angeles for a

1860
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:51,440
while doing that but uh that one is yeah

1861
01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:53,440
it's one of those that a little a little

1862
01:10:57,750 --> 01:10:55,120
halloween surprise that i'm not allowed

1863
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:57,760
to talk about but uh so those two things

1864
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:00,480
are upcoming and uh and also i'd like

1865
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,480
for all of your listeners to know that

1866
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:04,880
uh if you go to my website you can find

1867
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:06,640
a spot there where you can sign up for

1868
01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:08,960
my free e-newsletter

1869
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:11,679
and if you do that uh for one thing

1870
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:14,640
immediately you will receive an email

1871
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:17,120
that contains what i consider a good

1872
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:18,719
luck charm

1873
01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:21,760
and furthermore uh from there on i will

1874
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:25,199
send you updates on new experiments

1875
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:28,880
uh new sigils that i produce as uh over

1876
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:30,480
time because i have a lot more uh

1877
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:33,520
parasimatics experiments uh coming uh

1878
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:35,280
some more video reports all that kind of

1879
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:37,840
stuff so that's really the my i really

1880
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:40,480
love my e-newsletter list i've got a lot

1881
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:42,159
of subscribers who've stuck with me for

1882
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:43,760
many years and so

1883
01:11:46,430 --> 01:11:45,280
hopefully some of your listeners will go

1884
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:46,440
there to

1885
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:48,960
joshuapwarren.com and sign up

1886
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:50,560
very cool you know

1887
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,800
i bet you get asked this a lot but

1888
01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:54,800
i had a couple of questions in the chat

1889
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:56,239
room asking if you're

1890
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:59,120
related to the warrens

1891
01:12:02,470 --> 01:12:00,880
lorraine and ed

1892
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:02,480
yeah i do get asked that from time to

1893
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,080
time but i am not related to them um in

1894
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:08,960
fact it's kind of funny because i

1895
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:11,760
was doing research for years before i

1896
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:13,360
don't know how this i just never came

1897
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:14,320
across

1898
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:16,080
their work and then

1899
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:17,120
um

1900
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:19,679
eventually i ended up getting to meet

1901
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:22,239
lorraine warren in in chicago actually

1902
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:24,480
we were both speaking at a conference up

1903
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:27,120
there just a wonderful just nice lovely

1904
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:30,239
lady uh but i believe it or not i one

1905
01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:32,560
time i did a little search of my own

1906
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,239
name on the internet

1907
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:36,480
and i came across a website with a

1908
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:38,239
discussion board where there were a

1909
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:40,080
bunch of people saying nasty things

1910
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,800
about me and they were saying

1911
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:44,400
this guy just

1912
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:46,719
makes up the name warren because he's

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trying to ride the coattails of ed and

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lorraine warren and i was like this is

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the most ridiculous thing i've ever

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heard in my life

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joshua warren is my real name

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and uh i have never tried to pretend

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anything otherwise but uh it just shows

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you how conspiratorial some people could

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be people are very bored out there

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honestly some of the things they dream

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up i'm like really where'd that come

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from i mean sometimes it's very comical

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and it's it's good popcorn food stuff um

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yeah let's still watch and read and go

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oh okay let's go there um

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you know so

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what's next for you that you are really

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wanting to dig your heels into i mean

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you've got the sky's the limit for you

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there is no limit when it comes to

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mysteries what would you

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really dream to to dig into at some

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point

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well i always feel that i

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i just have not been spending uh enough

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time in the lab and so there are two

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things that i'm going to be doing over

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the next year one of them

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is um i'm going to be doing some much

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more elaborate parasitics projects in my

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laboratory in north carolina the second

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thing is

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i'm a part of a project called the

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mobius mission that we're we were going

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to start this past spring but we're kind

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of holding off a little bit because

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we're waiting for some technology to be

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perfected basically the mobius mission

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is going to be an endeavor

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to take a

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series of different paranormal hot spots

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around at least north america

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ufo hot spots and ghost hot spots go to

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those places

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and rig them up

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with a

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circle a ring

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of virtual reality cameras that are

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running 24 hours a day seven days a week

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so that when and if something paranormal

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occurs

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we will literally have this thing

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captured from every single angle 360

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degrees and we will also have some

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instrumentation there that will show us

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what is happening in the environment

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and if if we actually get a so let's say

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a full-bodied apparition

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from every single angle and it's

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affecting the instrumentation in the

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room

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and everybody involved has to take a lie

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detector test

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to prove that there's no hoaxing or no

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funny business going on this to me will

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be absolute proof that ghosts exist

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because we should have passed that

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boundary long ago but uh there are still

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people who don't believe ghosts are real

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well this will prove

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uh at least as much as we can possibly

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prove ghosts are real because i don't

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have that ghostbusters trap that i can

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kind of suck them into and release them

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but this is the next best thing so

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you'll be hearing a lot more about the

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mobius mission over the next year if

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everything goes as planned sounds good

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you know what i this is how i imagine

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you 20 years from now

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yeah i hope you've seen the cartoon rick

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and morty okay

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have you seen that cartoon

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nah i haven't i'm sorry it's crazy oh my

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gosh you gotta look it up it it's like

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the nutty professor crazy grandpa that's

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inventing things and he's going into

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outer space and he's dragging his

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grandchild along hilarious look it up

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you'll love it but that that i think you

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are

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a rick and morty uh yeah i really do

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well you know josh i have to thank you

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so much for coming on the show tonight

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this was just fantastic and fun as

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always i i could do this every freaking

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day just chatting it up with you i i

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just you're easy

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easy peasy

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well you are a fantastic host and a

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great researcher and just a wonderful

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person and uh thank you so much for

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having me on your show tonight i know

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we'll be working together on some

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projects in the near future so always

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fun to be with you my friend thank you

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heidi yes thank you hold up hold the

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line for one second i'm gonna close the

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show

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you guys we have come to the bottom of

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another fun fun fun show i i can't thank

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you guys enough for tuning in remember

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you could catch me here every friday 8pm

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central 9 pm eastern you've been

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listening to me heidi hollis the

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outlander remembering always if it's

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weird we're here good night everybody

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